Curse

Gli · Jul 10, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Sorry but that is wrong, most major cities have Western union in the Uk through Royal Mail post offices

I'm wasn't talking about W.U., but about their prepaid MasterCard.

Lonesamurai · Jul 10, 2007, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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Originally Posted by Gli

I'm wasn't talking about W.U., but about their prepaid MasterCard.

fair enuf... however, according to both visa and mastercard, they are available her, but I'm buggered if I can find them anywhere... I'll look at the post office 2moro whilst I'm working

Floreum · Jul 10, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34

I think there needs to be more stuff in the in-game store.
Like the starter weapons from GOTY (Game of the Year) Edition, but for Factions and Nightfall. Or... Maybe collectors edition stuff like Mini pets or music?
Also, can you buy the same campaign and it adding more character spaces?

VitisVinifera · Jul 10, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

not sure where the Western Union thing was headed, but that's what most multinational scams use. With WU, there's no faud protection, no way to reverse charges, no way to protect yourself at all.

Gun Pierson · Jul 11, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54

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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

not sure where the Western Union thing was headed, but that's what most multinational scams use. With WU, there's no faud protection, no way to reverse charges, no way to protect yourself at all.

I have no more info on WU, only my own experience. I used it 3 times in my life thusfar and it went ok. I got my goods. Ofcourse it all depends on who you're buying from. I'm not talking about their prepaid card though, I used a transfer at a post office. It was expensive though, 10 euro extra or something when I transfered 30 euro, which made the total cost over 40 euro. I don't remember their exact prices.

Meat Axe · Jul 11, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56

Alright, I'll start off by saying that I don't particularly mind this promotion. I mean, the box is nice, but since there's no collector's edition, and I can download the manual (if there is one, and if there are those cool mini story things in it like the others), I don't mind just purchasing the game online to get a guarantee of a pre release with my game (and get it free since it gives credit towards the actual game), and get easy access to the game. One thing I do have a problem with (and a few other people on these forums), however, is that buying in the online store is going to cost me quite a bit more than if I went to EB.

Okay, so I live in Australia. Which means the only store I can buy GW from (apart from online) is EB. At EB, according to their website, the game will cost $49.95. I'm fine with that price. It's the price I'd expect to pay for a game that I want as soon as it is released. This is only slightly more than I would be paying if I lived in the US (49.95 AUD is around 43 USD). Now here is the problem that I am having. In the GW online store, my currency is locked in British pounds. This would be because I bought a european edition of the game (all GW editions in Australia are from Europe) Now, I'm not sure how much GWEN is going to cost in pounds, but according to Amazon.co.uk, the RRP is 24.99. 24.99 GBP is equivalent to around 58 AUD. Quite a bit more than I would be paying if I were to be buying from EB for a boxed edition, and significantly more than if I was paying 39.99 USD for it through the online store. So I, like a few people have said before me, would like to request some way of choosing which currency to be used in the online store. I would be quite happy if it was linked to the region of my account (I changed mine to American servers awhile ago, since it gives me a better connection).

darted · Jul 11, 2007, 11:10 AM // 11:10

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Originally Posted by Leslie

I currently have 2 accounts on Guild wars, both with all 3 campaigns, 3 of which are Collector's Edition. Also, for both accounts, I have pre-ordered and gotten bonus pre-order items. I have bought both accounts a number of extra slots, and unlocked (or am close to unlocking) every skill, upgrade etc with balthazar faction. apart from a PvP edition that will have no effect, or extra slots that I needn't have because I already have one of every class of character on both accounts.

Also, I am capped at 2GB download limit /month on my ISP; It's not really faesible for me to download GW:EotN.

It seems a lot of Veteran players want the box, the artwork, posters, and such when they purchase GW:EotN, and are extremely interested in this bonus mission pack. Myself and my girlfriend both really want to play these missions as we feel they fill in any gaps or answer any questions we've had about the campaigns so far.

I'd be more than happy to buy the bonus mission pack at some extra cost, but I'm not looking to buy, say, 4 character slots that i'd have no usage for just for the bonus mission pack. It seems a lot of veteran players are having similar problems, and would like to see other solutions.

I am mostly in the same situation. I really want the bonus pack, but what do I spend the money on? Just buy character slots? Why not let me purchase the bonus pack? Since the way most titles work to punish those of us that play multiple characters now you punish those of us that have kept up?

darted · Jul 11, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Anet was damned either way. Since this is the first time they've done something like this, there would be hate regardless (perhaps that's why I defend Anet a little too heartedly).

Anet has always said it was not going to nickle and dime us to death, as that is just another way of "pay to play"; and goes against their Chapter model.

So, if they just put the 4 Bonus Missions out there, for say, $10, there would be a lot of grief. Not only from the people who say they cannot access the store, but from people who would say that this is a form of pay to play.

By offering the Missions as a free bonus for those who shop the Online store, they circumvent the pay to play accusation, but now they have made people basically choose between buying GWEN online or in a physical store. (yes, I know you can spend the money on anything in the store, but the price point of $30, and the lack of other things to buy, screams GWEN).

There are no perfect solutions, but Guild Wars 2 is coming, Chapters are done, and it's unknown what the future payment plan will look like (well, except No Monthly Fees. That is a promise for Guild Wars 2).

So, I think now is the perfect time for Anet to perfect this strategy, while Guild Wars 2 is being developed.

Good Point, but in reality IMHO adding mission bonus packs for $10 purchase is better with the limited content of the online store. To avoid the pay to play argument, call them expansions in GW2.

Mordakai · Jul 11, 2007, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by Floreum

Also, can you buy the same campaign and it adding more character spaces?

No, once you buy a Chapter, it is added to your account, and you cannot add it again for more slots.

Upgrading to Collector's Edition will give you the benefits of the CE (ie, any minipets, Auras, dances) but again, that will only work once (and the CEs are not available online anyway). And it will still not add extra slots if you already own the Chapter.

But since the Chapters are $50, and slots are $10, and you only get 2 Slots per Chapter (with the exception of the first Chapter you buy), you're better off buying the slots individually anyway.

Sirds · Jul 11, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by Chthon

You probably don't want your GW account tied to a non-existent address - or worse: you probably don't want your GW account tied to an e-mail address that now belongs to someone else. But, you can't change it.

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Fair enough, but honestly, I think you're a little paranoid.

Chthon is right. Everyday thousands and thousands domains are sold, traded or expired. I created small local GW fans site and players ask me - what they can do about email change. There are nothing to do after your email is gone! Serious NCsoft store fault.
Although I purchased Nightfall and slots online, I feel very uncomfortable with current situation.

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Are people going to really go through that much trouble just to access a game? We're not talking about you bank account. Just some toons. (of course, I'm casual, and don't have millions of gold on my account).

Hmm... I spend about 250 $ on this toons.

Shmanka · Jul 11, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

<< Refuses to spend another dime on ANet. There is nothing that attracts me in your store to think I can continue playing this game when your going to completely ditch it.

Lonk · Jul 11, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40

A bit of an off-topic question to Gaile, any ETA on when we'll find out a date for GW:EN preorder to be added to the online store? I picked up a visa gift card just for gw:en/mission pack bonus and was hoping to be able to use it soon and get the purchase out of the way.

LunaKali · Jul 12, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

I had numerous issues with the online store and getting my password reset etc etc.. and a few other problems - long story, even plaync doesn't quite get my problem. But in anycase, I'm not against buying stuff online - I do it all the time with my credit card. I do how ever prefer getting a nice little box and whatever comes with it. Its a pity there is no collectors as they would have made lots of money with that - i would buy it. I will therefor be buying the boxed set in store. If i loose out of extra missions - so be it. I'd rather pay for them in a shop.. than get them free by spending money in the online shop.

But I can bet that those missions would be released in some kinda way.. in the future... prob a few months after GW EN is released. Maybe as a combo with something else... Anyway i do believe they will release it in stores.. prob after the release of GW EN. And I'll still believe it.. even after they deny it 2.

pamelf · Jul 12, 2007, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by Meat Axe

Alright, I'll start off by saying that I don't particularly mind this promotion. I mean, the box is nice, but since there's no collector's edition, and I can download the manual (if there is one, and if there are those cool mini story things in it like the others), I don't mind just purchasing the game online to get a guarantee of a pre release with my game (and get it free since it gives credit towards the actual game), and get easy access to the game. One thing I do have a problem with (and a few other people on these forums), however, is that buying in the online store is going to cost me quite a bit more than if I went to EB.

Okay, so I live in Australia. Which means the only store I can buy GW from (apart from online) is EB. At EB, according to their website, the game will cost $49.95. I'm fine with that price. It's the price I'd expect to pay for a game that I want as soon as it is released. This is only slightly more than I would be paying if I lived in the US (49.95 AUD is around 43 USD). Now here is the problem that I am having. In the GW online store, my currency is locked in British pounds. This would be because I bought a european edition of the game (all GW editions in Australia are from Europe) Now, I'm not sure how much GWEN is going to cost in pounds, but according to Amazon.co.uk, the RRP is 24.99. 24.99 GBP is equivalent to around 58 AUD. Quite a bit more than I would be paying if I were to be buying from EB for a boxed edition, and significantly more than if I was paying 39.99 USD for it through the online store. So I, like a few people have said before me, would like to request some way of choosing which currency to be used in the online store. I would be quite happy if it was linked to the region of my account (I changed mine to American servers awhile ago, since it gives me a better connection).

QFT.

Aussies get such a bad deal in the online store. I know we don't have our own server, but to lump us in with the British Pound is just monetary murder...

Ideally I'd like to be able to pay in AU Dollars, but if not, at least put us in with either the Euro, or the US Dollar, which is slightly more manageable with the exchange rate.

Leslie · Jul 12, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by NORTICAT

i seriously didnt need an extra 3 char slots.....but maybe they will make good mules when GW: EN comes out?

Four extra slots for people in UK. -.-

cmdratz · Jul 12, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

The way I see it, anyone who buys Eye of the North, including the boxed version and registers by a certain time should get the 4 bonus missions. If you would like my frank advice, very few people will play the missions after a time has passed because few others will even have them: make the 4 bonus missions available to anyone who registers the expansion, at any time. Then people will replay the missions and they will be worth much more to the guild wars community.

Mordakai · Jul 12, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by cmdratz

The way I see it, anyone who buys Eye of the North, including the boxed version and registers by a certain time should get the 4 bonus missions.

If you would like my frank advice, very few people will play the missions after a time has passed because few others will even have them: make the 4 bonus missions available to anyone who registers the expansion, at any time. Then people will replay the missions and they will be worth much more to the guild wars community.

I suspect most people will "solo" the missions with Heros and Henchies, but since we really have no idea how hard / easy these missions are, or even how long they are, or anything about them except a basic premise:

it's a little early to be making predictions.

Anet won't make them available to all, because the entire point of the Bonus missions is to entice people to use the online store.

Catraine · Jul 13, 2007, 03:15 AM // 03:15

It would be nice if we got some sort of notice to verify that we qualified for the mission pack promotion. I just spent my $29.97 on three new character slots, but no where did it tell me that I just got my free mission bonus pack (to be released in november!).

Could they just send out an email or something? I realize I'm being paranoid, but I'd really like something in writing to verify that I have it.

Droniac · Jul 13, 2007, 06:56 PM // 18:56

1) Why do Europeans have to pay more than Americans? At current exchange rates $29 USD translates to 21 Euro, not 26. Similarly, the British are overcharged as well.

2) Only featuring credit card payment denies access to the game shop for most European players. It'd be nice for there to be some other means of payment, like purchasing NCSoft timecards and using those for online game shop purchases or at least something other than using a credit card.

Lonesamurai · Jul 13, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23

[quote=Droniac]1) Why do Europeans have to pay more than Americans? At current exchange rates $29 USD translates to 21 Euro, not 26. Similarly, the British are overcharged as well.[quote]
This has already been explained... It is due to local tax rates and other sales fees in that area!

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Originally Posted by Droniac

2) Only featuring credit card payment denies access to the game shop for most European players. It'd be nice for there to be some other means of payment, like purchasing NCSoft timecards and using those for online game shop purchases or at least something other than using a credit card.

And its not just gredit cards... debit cards are also usable, including bank pin cards which are available to MOST (not all, i admit, but most) people the world over with a bank account

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Originally Posted by Shmanka

<< Refuses to spend another dime on ANet. There is nothing that attracts me in your store to think I can continue playing this game when your going to completely ditch it.

please explain to me how they are ditching a game when their follow up game will be intrinsically linked through an addition in GW:EN, which is much more than most have when most sequels are released...